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Orion - Hussite war wagon command available !

Posted by Mummy on 17 May 2011, 18:18

why there is 6 horses and only 3 mounted figures
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Posted by Paul on 17 May 2011, 19:34

Mummy wrote:why there is 6 horses and only 3 mounted figures

Two sprues of mounted bods perhaps ????
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Posted by Pegas on 17 May 2011, 20:01

just one sprue with figures :cry:
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Posted by Paul on 17 May 2011, 20:32

Pegas wrote:just one sprue with figures :cry:

EH?? Then the other horses are for??...spares!?
It would make sense that there´s only one sprue with riders...why have two Jan Žižka´s?
Maybe one is for use as a drumskin??? :-)
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Posted by SamSagace on 17 May 2011, 21:49

better for the pics!!! :thumbup:
it's an interesting set!
I don't know if I can use it ... but I don't refuse to have it in my collection! :lol:

6 horses??? :shock:
well... 3 for other uses! :lol:
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Posted by KenzoSato on 17 May 2011, 22:14

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Posted by Mummy on 18 May 2011, 09:16

anyway sounds promising i hope to get them soon
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Posted by Zed1 on 18 May 2011, 09:20

Mummy wrote:why there is 6 horses and only 3 mounted figures


Means of production. The machine is set on producing this set of horses. I presume they'll use this horse sprue for other sets, too.
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Posted by zzed on 18 May 2011, 10:42

this set is looking really good :thumbup:
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Posted by MABO on 18 May 2011, 10:50

Yes, Peter, it is hard to believe. Good looking!
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Posted by musketier on 19 May 2011, 00:28

hmmm i think this one goes on the shopping list as well ;-)
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Posted by jmchasco on 23 Aug 2011, 21:50

Hi there !

I got the set since last week, but i'm unable to built the wagon...
it is about 35 parts without instructions ... :( :evil:
Some body has built it and can take some pictures ??? the ones at husitstvi.cz are not good enough...

Another question with this set are the horses... were they get the horses ??? they are too tiny for the figures.. and came with 6 horses for just 3 riders... ¿? and quite enough flash...
i think the horses are the same they used with 72033 Russian mounted knights

I can't understand these things from any manufacturer... a very beautiful sculpture for what ¿? :angry3:
tons of flash, moulds problems on ox and horses, and in the back of Jan Zizka ... and no instructions...
i'm still remember the quad maxim and DsHK sets... poor instructions and parts in soft plastic... and then this...

sorry to say than manufacturer is not so good as the sculptor... i will think it a lot prior to buy the next Orion release. :nono:
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Posted by Marshall Nay on 24 Aug 2011, 01:46

@jmchasco - Eventually PSR will build the wagon to review the set. Though waiting is frustrating, the photos they post will probably help.

@Pegas & Maurice - Thanks for posting pictures. Except for Orion's usual flash problems with the figures - why a company does such an expert job with sculpting and then botches the mold makes no sense - this looks to be a beautifully sculpted set.
And though complicated to assemble, the wagon appears to be a much more crisp and detailed model than MiniArt's. Tempts me to explore a new area. Thanks again.:thumbup:
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Posted by jmchasco on 24 Aug 2011, 09:33

@jmchasco - Eventually PSR will build the wagon to review the set. Though waiting is frustrating, the photos they post will probably help.


I will try it again this afternoon... although i have a lot of doubts with some pieces... including some of the important, not only the smallest one... it need pictures taken from all angles to ensure a good construction.. although i feel everybody who built it will do it as they thinks... is the problem of the lack of instructions.

And though complicated to assemble, the wagon appears to be a much more crisp and detailed model than MiniArt's. Tempts me to explore a new area. Thanks again.:thumbup:


It's true, it's a beautiful wagon, better than Miniart's ones, i will put pictures to compare both once i managed to built it in some way....

this looks to be a beautifully sculpted set.


Figures are beautiful sculpted, as Orion do many times... but quality of the mould is not good enough and seems they don't improve with pass of time...
the set 72031 Rus Foot Knights (Druzhina) has a very very beautiful sculpture, the medieval siege troops too... but literally tons of flash.. and that's a pity... here the problem of the flash is not so big, but still noticeable... and the horses are bad (and small) against the quality of the figures... I'm sorry, but I expect more from Orion with a so beautiful sculpted figures.

and don't forget the instructions please... they are going to worst with this subject.. Kettenkrad in German paratroops set, quad maxim and Dshk had bad instructions in the box's back... but the wagon just don't have... neither bad neither good ones. :evil:

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Posted by poky on 24 Aug 2011, 10:35

does oxen looks great love them
as for the 6 horses 3 riders thing would it be normal to have 1 rider and 2 horses for carts and horse drawn artillery

edit forgot thats where the oxes are for :?
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Posted by Marshall Nay on 25 Aug 2011, 04:55

@jmchasco, One thing I discovered with Orion is that their plastic softens VERY quickly in boiling water, so they can be quickly repositioned and then dipped in cold water to remain in more dramatic poses. Their figures tend to be flat, but very easy to change. :thumbup:

(But we agree, Orion's terrible mold making is VERY frustrating :angry3: .)
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Posted by Ash on 25 Aug 2011, 09:05

jmchasco wrote:I will try it again this afternoon... although i have a lot of doubts with some pieces... including some of the important, not only the smallest one... it need pictures taken from all angles to ensure a good construction.. although i feel everybody who built it will do it as they thinks... is the problem of the lack of instructions.


I'll try to make some pictures this sunday.
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Posted by jmchasco on 25 Aug 2011, 16:43

I built it yesterday.

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Some more pics at my blog, http://miniaturas.sin-dominio.com/en/miniatures/1-72/plastic-soldier/172-orion-72039-hussite-war-wagon-and-command/

I was unable to found were to put 5 small pieces. :)
There are also some pictures comparing it with the MiniArt's ones.

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Posted by Haron on 26 Aug 2011, 06:46

What parts remained?
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Posted by jmchasco on 26 Aug 2011, 07:43

What parts remained?


Thanks for your personal interest Haron,

I marked in red the parts which i don't know where to put.

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There are 8 of the rounded parts, i put four on the wheels, but the other four ?
And about the small stick... i don't know where it must be.

I don't want to disturb, but, why didn't put instructions ? It will save some time for people.
And last question is about the horses... i really see them small for the figures....

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I like a lot Orion sculpture and the subjects you are covering... but this about instructions is an important odd... i still think my DShK is bad mounted...

Anyway, many thanks again.

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