OwenChpw wrote:I've been looking for that set myself, but don't want to pay the small fortune for it!
morata92 wrote:Hey mates,
I have changed my mind. I don't want to make a diorama anymore.
I would like to introduce myself to wargames.
I will try with DBA or DBM rules.
I need a hand with the bases. I read the rules and they say that an element is 6cmx3cm.
I am considering the possibility of make the bases in 12cmx6cm in order to gather more figures in the same element.
Any tip?
Thankss
By the way I have painted a few figures recently.
kbakker wrote:With regards to the scenery, I myself am scavenging the internet for h0 scale trees, grass and scenery. Keep an eye out for people quitting the hobby and need to empty the attic or something
I have tried to make my own, but I didn't really like the process, nor did I like the results.
New the stuff is ridiculously expensive but secondhand they can be a steal.
Bessiere wrote:Very nice painting on these new chaps! I disagree about needing more varnish, armor should have a bit of sheen to it and I think your figs look perfect the way they are in my humble opinion.
morata92 wrote:Thanks for the info guys.
Yes, I agree with you OwenChpw, Basic impetus is funnier than DBx. I will try to make my bases like dioramas but it won't be easy.
Thaks Mr. Andrea, I could read that Basic and DBx are compatible so I have started to make the bases.
I have already decided to follow the netx French and English army lists.
I received the last boxes recently so I have all of them including a few figures of Miniart.
They will be about 200 figures all together. The Heavy Bombard set is going to be part of the scenery.
I have decided to include one base extra of FL in each army using the figures of Peasant Army.
I don't know whether that is correct or not.
OwenChpw wrote:
Hey, I just want to clarify some things because I don't want to mislead you or anything. I don't want to say one system is better or more fun or anything more than another. My point is I've never tried DBA because my group doesn't like it, but that doesn't mean DBA is worse or better. I just have no idea. If I ever get the chance I'd happily try it, and I've heard games are fast, so that's a plus.
But what I do know is stuff about Basic Impetus, because that's what I play, I know the current rules for version 1.0 are still around and, looking at the basing sizes now, I think it's the same as 2.0
So for reference, Basic Impetus is now 2.0 and the current basing system is:
I've highlighted the scale I use for 1/72, the rules themselves state you can use either 28mm or 15mm scale bases for 1/72, I've personally chosen 15mm because
1. That's just how my teacher taught me in high school,
2. I fit around 8 minis per base and that's cool by me.
But you can do whatever you want, it's your hobby. For maximum flexibility, why not follow the guidelines for DBA basing? Impetus and BI base sizes were designed to fit with other wargames so that way, I'm pretty sure if you just do DBA basing it should match up with my image above, but I don't really know, that's on you to check.
Looking at the BI 1.0 list you've provided, the English option is... - wow, I can't tell. I think the list was glitched, it doesn't tell you how many nobles or men at arms you can replace. I'm pretty sure it's equivalent so 1 for 1. The french list is implied to be in that way, so the French can swap 1 crossbow unit and 1 levies for 2 Artilley A (option 3) or like, 2 levies for 2 shortbow B.
Mate, if you want to throw in an extra unit of peasants as FL go nuts. It's not in the list options though, but if you don't care don't let it stop you. Again, it's your hobby. If you're a tournament player it's prob not allowed though. However, Impetus uses models as representation. If you want, you can make a unit of nobles using peasant miniatures or whatever and explain it to your opponent beforehand. I'm not a fan of WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get) because I think it limits creativity.
If you put 14 figures per base you're a braver man than I. I paint so slowly I'll probably retire before I finish my collection. I do 8, but I can see you've decided to go max base size (12 cm X 4cm?), probably for DBA.
I just think diorama bases are cool, no pressure, make them if you want. You can start simple, have some in close rank, some in loose order or you can go crazy with farm animals in between their legs and them clambering over smoking castle ruins or something. I'm currently building a styrofoam cliff for a chariot, it's a lot of fun.
For your reference, here's the Basic Impetus 2.0 English and French:
morata92 wrote:Hi,
I want to create a Medieval Diorama of 100 Year's War. For the time being I have purchased Zvezda English Knights and Zvezda French Infantry.
I have time because of the quarantine, but I haven't many of the materials I need so I am focused in the figures rather than the scenography.
Even though, I would like to create a forest using real plants and branches. It is possible? Have you ever built a forest in that way?
I accept every sort of tips about painting and scenography.
Sorry for my English.
Thanks.
morata92 wrote:
Wow, this message contains really worthy information.
I am answering you properly tomorrow. Thanks a lot
morata92 wrote:
Sorry OwenChpw , I have been a bit busy recently.
I have read your message quite thoroughly. I have understood Impetus figures basing, thanks.
Unfortunately my first experience basing miniatures was a total disaster. I made polyestyrene bases using the basic impetus dimensions, however when I painted the bases they melted like ice because of the solvent.
morata92 wrote: Then I decided to try with wooden bases. The result was quite good but soon I was mulling over the possibility of having a "Movable miniatures" so as to change them depending on the Army List I wanted to play each game.
The best option I have thought up is the next one:
Using a metal sheets as bases and put a tiny strong magnet under the figure bases. Over the metal sheets I want to put a rectangular grass ¿carpets?. I have my fingers crossed hoping that it works.
morata92 wrote:I will show you a sample of the results as soon as I receive the materials.
Meanwhile, I continue painting!
I am very grateful OwenChpw, if you hadn't sent that army lists I wouldn't have tried that way to base my minis.
You have a friend in Spain since that moment.
OwenChpw wrote:
Putting a grass matt on bases is a decent idea, but you need to think about how plastic miniatures already come on a little plastic stand.
What I like about my approach is that the natural plastic base of the miniature is integrated into the base itself so the join is seamless. It looks more realistic. I suppose with the grass matt, if you want a seamless join, you could cut holes in it, put your minis in the holes, then PVA glue, then static grass the plastic base so it looks like the metal base. You said you want to be able to move your minis around, that way you could still do that and the plastic base would retain the look of the metal base. Lot more effort though lol.