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Posted by Alanus on 23 May 2010, 01:41

On 4 August 1645 a group of Clubmen (local militia) were defeated by some of Cromwell's troops at Hambleton Hill. Their flag was captured, and although no image survives, the motto on the flag was recorded ('If you offer to plunder or take our cattel, be assured we will bid you battel').

I converted some figures to represent the Clubmen. Most of them are from the very useful Imex set of Pilgrims, and one figure is from the ACTA Royalist Artillery, with his rammer and bucked replaced with a quarterstaff.

If anyone wants a copy of the flag, you can find it over on my blog.

Cheers,
Alan.

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Posted by Paul on 23 May 2010, 09:22

:thumbup: :thumbup: :-) Finally someone has represented these guys :thumbup: :thumbup: I think I read somewhere that they became the third force in the ECW and made both Parliament and royalists have to consider them.
Well done in representing this lot :thumbup: :thumbup: and a good use of the pilgrims
I like the oldie worldie writing on the flag.
Didn´t the clubmen wear white strips of cloth???
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Posted by Alanus on 23 May 2010, 10:08

Paul wrote:Didn´t the clubmen wear white strips of cloth???


Do you know the source for this? My understanding is that 'Clubmen' was a fairly catch-all term used to describe locally organised groups that had all sorts of motivations. Some may have had Leveller or other religious convictions, others were just wanting to stop stragglers from the armies of either side from stealing their belongings. I don't know of any evidence for 'Clubmen' having a sense of unity with other similar groups - they seem to have had very local concerns. Happy to be proven wrong on any of this. :lol:
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Posted by monty on 23 May 2010, 10:10

the flag looks great as does the rest :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Posted by west1871 on 23 May 2010, 11:32

Nice job :thumbup: and I have learnt something new :thumbup:
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Posted by Paul on 23 May 2010, 11:38

The reference I made to white strips of cloth was something from my (now dulling) memory and school long long ago.
BUT!! :-) I´ve just found something after an internet search, 1st hit as well!! :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clubmen
and this;
http://www.thedorsetpage.com/history/Do ... lubmen.htm
The second refers to white cockades, the first to white ribbands
basically a cockade could be either, a strip of ribbon made into a knot and worn on the hat, maybe armbands are more likely.
http://www.answers.com/topic/cockade
Hope it helps :-)
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Posted by musketier on 23 May 2010, 17:15

very good job on these figures :-D :thumbup:
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Posted by luchs on 23 May 2010, 17:18

nice flag.. :thumbup:
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Posted by Peter on 23 May 2010, 17:43

Great painted figures :thumbup:
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Posted by Wheeling Turn on 24 May 2010, 12:58

excellent idea, wonderful.... :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Posted by Susofrick on 24 May 2010, 13:57

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Posted by yu_yin_lin on 25 May 2010, 10:16

the flag gives a very good impression. :thumbup:
no matter English, or Napolean figures, or Samurai, as long as people add flags, they will come to live, just like magic ;-)
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Posted by bilsonius on 26 May 2010, 03:23

Been thinking of working on some of these myself, using the same figs, and perhaps adding some characters in rustic smocks:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/_ ... /shirt.jpg
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Posted by ColeF on 26 May 2010, 16:36

Nice work there!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Posted by Martin on 26 May 2010, 19:21

Flag is handmade, I presume?
In that case : :notworthy: :notworthy: big bow: excellent work!!
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Posted by Cor V. on 26 May 2010, 21:22

Just great. :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Posted by Springinsfeld on 03 Jun 2010, 22:04

Cracking stuff and great flag. Last time I was up on Hambledon Hill (1988) it rained heavily, so I would paint these guys with really floppy hats and gloss varnish :(
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Posted by Alanus on 05 Jun 2010, 00:40

Springinsfeld wrote:Cracking stuff and great flag. Last time I was up on Hambledon Hill (1988) it rained heavily, so I would paint these guys with really floppy hats and gloss varnish :(


Thanks for the comments chaps. Springinsfeld - for a matter of interest, is there any sort of memorial to the 'battle' on Hambledon Hill?
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Posted by bilsonius on 05 Jun 2010, 01:56

Pity there doesn't seem to be any connection with Hambledon in Hampshire - then you could have had a couple of Clubmen wielding early cricket bats... :mrgreen:
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Posted by Tom Russell on 05 Jun 2010, 06:57

Great figures and an interesting history lesson to boot! Thanks for sharing
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