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Posted by Susofrick on 23 Feb 2021, 09:16

Yes, thougt about that. One of the few monkeys in our scale that is not too pricey is in the Tarzan set I think. Are there more?
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Posted by Ochoin on 23 Feb 2021, 09:53

Bluefalchion wrote: The Minoans trained blue monkeys to pick saffron for them???


One thing is certain: the monkeys were NOT blue as the colour blue did not exist in ancient times.

yes, you heard me: no blue.


https://www.businessinsider.com.au/what ... lor-2015-2

Homer's "wine dark sea" is further proof. We see blue sea, he saw water the colour of wine-lees.

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Posted by steve_pickstock on 23 Feb 2021, 12:06

Ochoin wrote:
One thing is certain: the monkeys were NOT blue as the colour blue did not exist in ancient times.

yes, you heard me: no blue.


https://www.businessinsider.com.au/what ... lor-2015-2

Homer's "wine dark sea" is further proof. We see blue sea, he saw water the colour of wine-lees.

donald


Except that Blue did exist.
Blue is one of the colours of the rainbow - Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo, Violet. Anyone seeing defracted light in the form of a rainbow or through a prism would be able to see blue.

Woad gives a blue dye.

The brick work on the Ishtar gate is blue.
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This freco from Crete
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Those are just a couple of examples that I can think of.

The Homeric phrase has been discussed by people who are a lot cleverer than me, I don't think it is considered to be as conclusive as the article suggests, the argument being that Homer says 'wine dark' he doesn't say wine coloured.

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Posted by Bluefalchion on 23 Feb 2021, 16:01

That guy on the right has a very studious look. He is sorting through to pick out the choicest saffron fronds.

If the Minoans used blue monkeys to do their agricultural work, it could explain why they had so much time to create amazing frescoes.

I wonder what they rewarded them with? Tasty berries? Belly tickles? A free trip to the Ape Nymphonium?
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Posted by Ochoin on 23 Feb 2021, 20:57

Steve, clearly blue didn't just appear one day but it seems possible we are talking about a perception.

If you don't see something, it is there? ("tree falls in a forest" thing). So if the Ancient Greeks looked up & saw a sky they thought of as 'beaten copper', then blue, as we know it, did not exist.

And after all, colour identification is arbitrary. We Gaelic-speaking types evidently see green as 3 different colours (& not "dark or lime or blue-green etc).

......I never thought I'd be discussing metaphysics on a miniatures forum....
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Posted by steve_pickstock on 23 Feb 2021, 22:45

Me neither.

With regards to skies I recall as a child, cloudless blue skies that seemed to be steel coloured towards the horizons, so yes it is about perceptions. Famously Inuit people perceive snow differently to people from lower latitudes. But a simple declaration that blue didn't exist based on a semantic countdown doesn't work. Whether it's synonyms or semantic differences, blue by any other name is - er - blue!
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Posted by steve_pickstock on 24 Feb 2021, 00:02

I will see your Eifel and raise you a Mitchell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5782PQO5is
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Posted by Ochoin on 24 Feb 2021, 02:32




So that's the answer! There WAS no blue until aliens brought it to earth sometime, I assume, and gave it to Johnny Cash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmIvIOjVtJs

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Posted by Bluefalchion on 24 Feb 2021, 07:00

Poor Linear-A. This thread has gone right off the rails. I hold myself personally responsible.

Anyway congrats on the good PSR review. It's not Pegasus D-Day Rangers or Matchbox Japanese, but still pretty darn good.
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Posted by Erich von Manstein on 27 Feb 2021, 22:12

One regular and three Mini Sets are available now.
026 - Samnite Wars Infantry Set 1
004s - Waterloo after the Battle Set 1 French Disaster
005s - Waterloo after the Battle Set 2 British Disaster
006s - The Victory of Waterloo

Another upcoming set is making good progress, 12 poses now. :thumbup:
025 - Hannibal crosses the Alps Set 5 Celtic Salassi vs. Carthaginians

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