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Stuka

Posted by Ochoin on 25 Jun 2018, 01:42

Can I ask a technical question?

For my N**i forces, I'd like to field a Stuka. The Germans are designed for late war NW Europe. Ie '44-'45. I believe they may have been still used against the Soviets at that time but I can't find anything with regards to the British and American front.

I know the Alllies ruled the skies by then and N**i resources were at a minimum thanks to the successful air war conducted by Bomber Harris etc.

So how ridiculous would it be to include a Stuka in my N**i force?

Donald
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Posted by Zed1 on 25 Jun 2018, 21:41

Well - Harris' city bombing were less effective as allied propaganda always told. Ever wondered about German industry recovering so miraculously fast after WW2? Okay, different story, I know.

Apart from fuel shortage and other disadvantages, you can put Stukas into your army. But you must only field them during nighttime. No joke - as slow flying bombers were too vulnerable under dayflight conditions, German Luftwaffe formed so called 'Nachtschlachtgruppen'. Sorties were flown under the cover of night, when the relative slow speed was an advantage for the Stukas (same effect that worked for the Russian Nightwitches - it's hard for a fast fighter to take down a slow plane when it's pitch black outside).
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Posted by Ochoin on 25 Jun 2018, 22:05

Thanks, Zed.

Unfortunately I don't fight wargames at night in the pitch dark....I couldn't see the figures!
So either park the Stuka (a lovely model, given to me by my son) or bend history.

We'll have to disagree about the bombing campaign. The Marshall plan stilled my wonderment on the question you pose.

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Posted by Zed1 on 26 Jun 2018, 00:04

Well - for daytime you should then better use Fw190 fighterbombers. That's more accurate. :mrgreen:
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Posted by huib on 26 Jun 2018, 09:20

Yes, Zed is right. No Stuka's on the Western Front in 1944-1945, but FW 190's. In the last months of the war also Me 262 and Arado 234 jetplanes were used as fighterbombers in NW Europe, but only in very limited numbers.

But for tactical bombing also bigger planes were used, such as the Me 410, Ju 88 and Ju 188, although sparsely and often with heavy losses as a result of allied air superiority.

So, you have some choice to pick from. For wargaming purposes however using the FW 190 would be a simple, adequate and historically correct solution.
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Posted by Ochoin on 26 Jun 2018, 22:09

I appreciate the replies.

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Posted by Graeme on 06 Jul 2018, 12:44

Ochoin wrote:a lovely model, given to me by my son


That's a good reason for bending history though.
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Posted by Ochoin on 06 Jul 2018, 13:48

It didn't look too out of place on the table.
I sent these photos to my boy (he's working in Barcaldine now):

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Posted by guilhem on 13 Jul 2018, 10:51

1940 german luffwaffe have the superiority
1941 again
1942 again
you can used stuka and all german planes
1943 in USSR you can find stuka against tank with 2 37mm gun.
1944 the german luffwaffe is down... you can't see bombers, only one fighter Me 109.
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