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body Sculpture

Posted by Alex on 24 Sep 2016, 11:24

Friends, I am happy that here in the forum is becoming more and more sculptors. For sculpting figures in scale 1:72, of course, I have a lot of diligence and training . I invite all to write here about their experiences and the problems that are associated with the body sculpture, portrait, clothing folds.
Here is my yesterday's training,
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Posted by Ben90 on 24 Sep 2016, 13:48

I would be more than happy if this was my training :-)
Just fantastic, how you achieved the effect of a very thin tissue. I found the best for sculpting folds in clothing is a sculpting-tool with a silicone tip, but it is still very hard to get it right...
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Posted by Kostis Ornerakis on 24 Sep 2016, 15:40

I am speechless with this excellent figure :notworthy: ,
...but I am wondering if one less talented could manage to represent the thin fabric with thin tissue and diluted white glue. :eh:
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Posted by giorgio on 24 Sep 2016, 15:51

Who are you? Canova?
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Posted by Roland_Kupski on 24 Sep 2016, 16:03

To paint this beauty will request all my skill, even skill I´ll never have,,,,,Wow wow wow wow wow...
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Posted by Michel on 24 Sep 2016, 17:02

Can we buy the training-figure???
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Posted by Ray.Caruana on 24 Sep 2016, 17:57

And when I think that you have reached your maximum level of skill, Bam! you present us with this :shock: :drool: BRAVO!!
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Posted by Dad's Army on 24 Sep 2016, 18:13

Alex, you make in your training whats on my mind.
Man I wish I had just a part of your skills...
You keep me thinking, this guy can make anything!,,
Fantastic!
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Posted by stenfalk on 24 Sep 2016, 19:37

Alex, you want us depressed? I fear what is a problem for me (and perhaps for the most of us) you knead from a lump-earth with closed eyes and hands on the back. :shock:

Nevertheless, I support your proposal, because each of us will benefit. You however the least. :xd:

Your exercise sculpture is a dream. It is inconceivable to me that you are doing those wonderful things in one day. :oops:

This is my "training" of the last week (7 days!!!): :eh: The sculpture is about 11 mm high...

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What someone should learn from me? :(
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Posted by Peter on 24 Sep 2016, 20:09

I can only say one thing Alex: "KEEP ON TRAINING!" :thumbup:
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Posted by Beano Boy on 24 Sep 2016, 21:28

Wonderful Work Alex,
i just hope that dog don`t chew it up.
i am impressed with that little mutt too. Lovely work Torsten. BB
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Posted by Graeme on 25 Sep 2016, 03:42

I was always amazed at how the ancient sculptors could make stone look transparent. Obviously the skill has not been lost. Simply wonderful.
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Posted by Wiking on 25 Sep 2016, 07:08

Funny:
Stenfalk`s good looking dog is a contrast program to the nice lady wrapped in a with of nothing. :-D
I like both sculpture. :yeah:
But I hope to get these Russian Models as Stenfalk `s running dogs soon. :mad:
Very well done Alex and Stenfalk. :notworthy:
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Posted by Wiking on 25 Sep 2016, 07:39

My very small contribution is:
These are my lonely sculping of figures.
OK only the head.
I make two oval piece. One bigger as the other. And add the eyes the hair and the nose a single part on.
And this was to do the fact that these parts are very small not so easy. To round it all i use a wet small brush several time.
And these are simply remakes of puppet figures.
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I know, I know friends I am close to Alex right now. :mrgreen: :shock: :oops:
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Posted by Wolfgang Meyer on 25 Sep 2016, 09:01

Alex, i have no words...... :shock: :shock: :shock:

Wonderful figure!!!
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Posted by Mr. Cryns on 25 Sep 2016, 09:50

Alex: that's one of the best figures ever made by anyone.
Thanks for starting this topic.
I will add my 'questions about sculpting figures' soon here.

And I am happy to see how Benno's Figures Forum is moving more and more towards a place for discussing about how to make figures and objects in stead of how to buy and paint them.

Wiking wrote:Stenfalk`s good looking dog is a contrast program to the nice lady wrapped in a with of nothing.
I like both sculpture.


Wiking you are reading my thoughts!
Stenfalk you have a great sense of humor:
After that sexy lady with wrinkled wet cloth you show us your best wrinkles!
YOUR DOG IS SO UGLY! :P :xd: :o No not the sculpting, only the breed.

It is very inspiring to me to see how you mix all kinds of materials.

stenfalk wrote:What someone should learn from me?

What we can learn from you is: keep on adding, removing and adding more layers and don't give up until you get the desired result.

And talking about humor: Wiking you are succesfull in humor too which your Muppets show once more again.
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Posted by Alex on 26 Sep 2016, 18:01

:oops: :oops: :oops:
Thank you, friends, for your comments and humor !!!
But I would like to in this topic we discussed ways of sculpture on a small scale and to share experiences and methods to achieve a good result ....
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Posted by stenfalk on 26 Sep 2016, 20:40

Alex, i'm by your side, no question! My contribution has been accepted probably a little funnier than it should be. I wanted to point more on the different level in which we work, although everyone knows. :eh:

Yet i am already proud and appreciate i've made a big step forward with this dog in comparison to earlier works. Because we must not forget he is very small, even if the photo does not look like.

Regardless i fear, basically a discussion between us is only i ask many questions and you answer. How should i give you tips for problems that occur for you? :(

You know what i want to tell you? I have a bad conscience only...
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Posted by Mr. Cryns on 27 Sep 2016, 10:06

Alex wrote:I would like to in this topic we discussed ways of sculpture


For discussion we need a personal opinion, a statement or a question.
As long as you don't come up with any of that there will be no discussion.
So I will show you my worst sculpting experience up till now together with the question:

HOW TO PREVENT ATTACHED BODYPARTS TO FALL OFF AGAIN?

After making a start with Green Stuff I tried all kinds of other sculpting materials to understand their qualities.

From left to right: Brown Stuff, Fimo Soft, Brown Stuff and Super Sculpey:
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From left to right: Apoxie Sculpt and Magic Sculpt:
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As will be clear by these two pictures already Magic Sculpt gave the most satisfying result and also works most easy for me.

Basic caracteristics:
Fimo Soft and Super Sculpey are thermo hardening (in the oven by 130 degrees C) and the other ones are two component self hardening epoxies.
Brown Stuff, like Green Stuff, can not be solved in water which is a great disadvantage. But their advantage is its sticky qualities.

Now let us have a look at the Super Sculpey guy with its hands raised up.
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DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!

Super sculpey is not made for sculpting 1/72 figures I think. Its to rough, as can be seen on the picture. One of the problems was it does not stick to the copper wire. I had great problems getting the arms finished. I sculpted proper feet but they crumbled and fell off. New layers of muscles and skin did not stick to the already hardened body mass.
THEY FELL OFF AGAIN.

So I continued using Brown Stuff since that its sticky stuff.
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The problem with Brown Stuff: it can not be smoothened with water. Excessive parts can be cut away or polished with a polishmachine but the result will stay pretty rough. As can be seen in the next picture the arms became too long so I cut the wrists and shortened them. I added the hands again with Super Glue on the tips of the copper wire.
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But look at its d*ck. It fell off. First the Super Sculpey one fell of and then the Brown Stuff one.

So I tried it once more using Magic Sculpt since that can be applied being very wet and hopefully infiltrate micro cracks in the body to fasten itself when drying.
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It fell off again.
Like parts of its beard.

So I tried the most sticky one: Green Stuff.
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I treated it very carefull and ITS STILL THERE!

After this experience I focussed on Magic Sculpt. That went well until I started molding my sculptures. When taking this kneeling man out of the rubber mold, he lost part of his hair at the back of its head:
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And look at his sandals: I used Green Stuff again since Magic Sculpt sandals fell off again. I lost some sandal ropes in my mold too and added them again using Super Glue. I secured all of its sandal feet with Super Glue so I was sure they would not fall of gain in the next mold.

But a layer of glue diffuses and destroys some of the detailed sandal sculpting.

So I found out several ways to fasten new layers:
1) Press very hard with an iron or hard-rubber tool.
2) Make the surface rough by making many small knive carvings or grinding it.
3) Use superglue.
4) Use stickey sculpt.

But still my figures fall apart before my molds are finished.

SO CAN ANY ONE OF YOU GIVE ME ADVICE?
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