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30YW revell and zvezda

Posted by remmchen on 23 Jan 2009, 20:27

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Posted by Benno on 23 Jan 2009, 20:30

What a shame, they're rather big compared to the Revell figs. Not only the height, but also the heads, feathers and stuff.

Thanks for the pics! :thumbup:
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Posted by Juba on 23 Jan 2009, 20:41

Oh no, it looks like hell has indeed frozen over, as I'm getting prepared to criticize my beloved Zvezda!

In all seriousness, this isn't one of their best sets, I find them quite stocky in appearance and actually prefer the Revel set, as far as sculpting style goes.

I'm beginning to believe that Zvezda has a sculptor in their stable I'm not too keen on. Just compare their Roman Legion set with their Auxiliaries. The Legionaries (and their Vikings also, I might add) are very similar in appearance to these 30YW troops, quite stocky when compared to the elegant proportions of most of their sets. Hope that he isn't the one to sculpt the medieval peasants.....

That said, Zvezda at their worst are better quality than most companies at their very best, so there you are.

I think I'll go and skate on the thin ice of hell now....
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Posted by Mai Strac on 23 Jan 2009, 21:36

Zvezda is one of the best figures manufacters, but for 30YW revell is the best choice!
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Posted by ColeF on 23 Jan 2009, 22:23

Not to disagree here, but I kinda like the stocky appearence. And the detail is twice as good as Revell. :thumbup:
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Posted by Martin on 25 Jan 2009, 00:09

Hi,
The Zvezda figures seem a little bit bigger than the Revell ones, but the detail is much better.
Even in the middleages people weren't equal tall. As today there were smaller and taller people, so I don't see any problem.
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Posted by Mai Strac on 25 Jan 2009, 12:35

Zvezda is the best for detail and sculpture, I'm in loved of her products, but I don't think that you can do a line of musketters with Revell and Zvezda, the size is too much differet.
It isn't only a problem of size but first of all of proportion, even in the equipment. You can find men different for size but the dimension of the rifle is the same for all.
I'm sorry for my bad enghlish!! :oops: :oops:
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Posted by je_touche on 25 Jan 2009, 14:16

You hear that argument again and again, 'people are of different size, so you can mix figures of different size'.

That is true as long as it refers to body hight only. But look at the heads and compare their sizes. Within limits, an adult's head should be more or less of the same size (with minor variations) regardless of his or her overall size. That is why a smallish person has a head-body index of ca. 1 to 6,5, whereas a tall person has an index of 1 to 7,5 or even 8. So this is the one and most important indicator that the Revell and the Zvezda figures are in different scales. As Mai Strac said everything else as well shows that proportions, weapons and armour do not fit. Also have a look at the length of their pikes, e.g.

Sorry to say, but the distinguishing modeller would not mix those figures. I am a fan of Zvezda as most of us are but unfortunately their figures show considerable millimetre creep. While Revell figures are mostly in true 1/72nd scale Zvezda's figures tend to be much larger. Also, sculpting styles are very different, though most people don't mind.

You could still use them in a boxed diorama, with the Revells in the background.
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Posted by T. Dürrschmidt on 25 Jan 2009, 20:52

I agree with je touche. I am making my "pike and shot-contribution" at the moment. Zvezda and Revell are not mixable for me. But you can use "Call to Arms" to mix with Revell.
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Posted by je_touche on 25 Jan 2009, 21:08

Actually the Zvezda pikeman represents quite a small and stocky type of man while the Revell one depicts a tall and lean man. So representation is contrary to their actual sizes. In other words, the Revell man is 1/72nd and would scale up to ca. 176 cm, whereas the Zvezda man is rather in 1/60th scale and scales up to ca. 164 cm.

Hopefully I made my point clear.
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Posted by Martin on 26 Jan 2009, 21:26

Hi, Je_touche,

I am convinced. You made some good points here.
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Posted by efb on 27 Jan 2009, 16:58

Hell's Bells...just get some ACTA ECW figures...throw in some IMEX Pilgrims and you'll have enough size variation that it'll all look natural enough.

What people are really having trouble with...is the discover that in a direct comparison with the master figures of the Mighty Revell...their precious zvezda...CAN'T CUT IT!


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Posted by ModernKiwi on 27 Jan 2009, 19:02

Revell vs Revell

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Posted by Martin on 28 Jan 2009, 23:14

Hi,
Also PSR reviewed both giants as such.
So no surprises here......
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