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Posted by matgc on 28 Dec 2018, 14:35

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Posted by Kekso on 28 Dec 2018, 14:46

Nice figures, beautifully painted.
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Posted by Mr. Andrea on 28 Dec 2018, 18:12

love this red stampede
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Posted by Beano Boy on 29 Dec 2018, 01:43

Beautifully Painted, and looking rather Grand. :thumbup:
What make are these figures please?

Love your painting style! BB
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Posted by Beano Boy on 29 Dec 2018, 01:51

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Yes I found them. BB
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Posted by matgc on 29 Dec 2018, 13:23

You're correct, Beano!

Now, looking at that box more carefully, I see the trumpeter has red mane. Could the uniform specialists here confirm that? Should I correct mine?
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Posted by Peter on 29 Dec 2018, 13:40

Excellent painted cavalry Mat! :thumbup:

And here is an image of their uniform:

http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/un ... iformes=10

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Posted by Beano Boy on 29 Dec 2018, 14:55

Well yes it is red horse tail hair as confirmed in the picture above posted by Jan, and below by little me. ;-)

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Well I`m no expert but do finger tapping pc research when needed.
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Posted by Graeme on 29 Dec 2018, 15:06

Absolutely splendid paintwork on some very nice figures. Also nicely posed and based, these look great. The conversion on the wounded figure works very well.

I don't need this set, I have enough of the other company's but these look really good and I think I'd like to get some sometime. :-)

matgc wrote:looking at that box more carefully, I see the trumpeter has red mane. Could the uniform specialists here confirm that? Should I correct mine?


I looked through my small library; Haythornethwaite and Digby Smith and C.E. Franklin make no mention of a red horsehair mane. All of them say the dragoon helmet had a black horsehair mane but don't record any distinction for trumpeters.

It's quite possible that this information might be left out of the Haythornethwaite or Smith books but, assuming all of the information in it is correct, the C.E. Franklin book "British Napoleonic Uniforms" is really quite comprehensive and I can't imagine such a detail being left out.

I don't think you need to repaint the trumpeter's mane unless you really want to. Or unless you find what the source is and consider it to be unassailable.
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Posted by Graeme on 29 Dec 2018, 15:48

Looked a bit further online. Being a French site the mont-saint-jean site may have used the 1960's-70's Historex illustrations of M. Lelieprvre as the source for this. (I don't know that, just speculation). Click on 6th Dragoons in the Great Britain menu:

http://members.upnaway.com/~obees/soldiers/nap_uniforms/dframe.html

Again I wouldn't be too quick to change it unless there is a contemporary British source.
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Posted by FredG on 29 Dec 2018, 16:39

That's the one I was looking at

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It would appear that the 1st Royal dragoons had the same.

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Posted by matgc on 30 Dec 2018, 14:07

It's settled, then. Let's repainted the trumpeter's mane in red. It's a very easy fix, it'll just take me a few minutes.

Thanks for the info, guys, and I'm glad you like these!
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Posted by Santi Pérez on 30 Dec 2018, 19:53

Splendid paintjob on these beautiful Waterloo 1815 figures, matgc. :shock:

My very best congratulations. :thumbup:

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Posted by sansovino on 01 Jan 2019, 17:21

You was already a great painter, but your recent works are still more impressive. A wonderful work, thanks for sharing it with us - and for the very useful historic uniform-plates.
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Posted by FredG on 02 Jan 2019, 23:34

Watching Waterloo (1970) for the umpteenth time I spotted this

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:-D :yeah:

It's only taken me 48 years to spot it :shock:
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Posted by Wiking on 03 Jan 2019, 04:35

For true, wonderfull painted soldiers and horses.
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For the discussion if black or red,
the trumpet get no hole !
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Posted by Graeme on 03 Jan 2019, 06:12

Wiking wrote:the trumpet get no hole !
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Some people think they sound better that way. :mrgreen:

The trumpeter in the film is a Life Guard rather than a dragoon and they appear to have made his windswept caterpiller crest from horsehair instead of chenille so I wouldn't be too certain they got the colour right.

Franklin says that, like infantry drummers, cavalry trumpeters were dressed, by the Colonel "at considerable expense and sometimes in quite outlandish uniforms." But that the trumpeters became so conspicuous that a regulation of September 1811 required that trumpeters be dressed in a manner similar to that of the private soldiers. Whether the regulation was adhered to is quite a different matter.
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Posted by FredG on 03 Jan 2019, 09:01

Personally I've always wondered why the trumpeters/ buglers were dressed differently. Surely the fact that they're carrying a trumpet identifies them. Also it's the trumpeter's job to stay near the officers not the other way around :-D


Rifles Officer "Pick off their command first"
Rifleman "How will we know which they are sir?"
Rifles Officer " The ones on the white horses in pink and the ones next to them."

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Graeme, the trumpeter in Waterloo was to show the trend of references. :yeah:
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