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30 years war

Posted by malcolmblackwall on 26 Oct 2009, 10:54

Hi all,

could anyone recommend a free system for gaming the 30 years war? I'd prefer systems for 15mm oder 10mm but one for 20mm (1/72) is good as well.
I have searched the web for quite a while - found "Father Tilly" and already started to write a translation, when i found several statements in some forums that say it's historical nonsense.

Hints and reccomendations welcome,

Malcolm
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Posted by Wheeling Turn on 26 Oct 2009, 10:59

Well I prefer 1644. It is not a free set but a very fun and entertaining system.
It goes not into so much detail, so ca be picket up very fast and gives a reasonable result.
In comparison there is Warhammer ECW. but this is errr more warhammer so expect quite bloody results with lots of dead models littering the ground, where 1644 it is hard to kill mor than 2-3 models with the salve of a whole battalion of around 40 models.

cheers markus
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Posted by Tom71 on 26 Oct 2009, 18:51

30 yw-wargaming in 1/72???? Malcolm?!?!?!?!?!? :shock: :-D :-D :-D :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Posted by malcolmblackwall on 27 Oct 2009, 07:38

Nope, Tjeromeke - not 1/72. Playing 30 Years War in 1/72 is like making a movie about Borodino when you have only 30 actors. That's what a Tercio in 1/72 would look like, if you want to keep it playable. Otherwise you'd need a table sized 6x9 meters ;)

I want to play it in 15mm (preferred) or 10mm - but i'd take a system designed for 1/72 or even bigger figures and scale it down.

For the moment i am still busy translating the old "Father Tilly" - just wondered if anybody has experience with other systems.

Okay - it didn't surprise me that Wheeling Turn answered - I think i could have asked for someone who knows a system for epic scale battles of spark plugs against licorice-smurfs in 1/12. Think he would have answered "'Sparky Ho' is a fine system for beginning, but I'd prefer 'Licorice forward' if you don't mind reading mandarin" - or something like that :horse:
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Posted by Wheeling Turn on 27 Oct 2009, 08:19

and hey malcolm there also is a set for garden wargaming : it is called the great killer tomatoes from outa space and they have a supplement for the war of the smurf rebellion which can be done in 15mm Cherry tomatoes.
A tercio in cherry tomatoes (1/72) wil only have two kilos!!!!

Ohh and it is written in Nepali....

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Posted by Alanus on 27 Oct 2009, 10:25

You could try DBA-RRR, the hybrid of De Bellis Antiquitatis (DBA) and De Bellis Renationis (DBR):
http://www.scribd.com/group/82216-dba-r ... estoration
I haven't played it, but played DBR recently for the English Civil War and enjoyed it a lot.
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Posted by Fenton on 27 Oct 2009, 10:54

You could try Forlorn hope, they were written for ECW but there used to be a TYW supplement on their Yahoo group

there also Principles of War Renassiance whixh ia meant to be good if you ignore the army lists si I am told
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Posted by malcolmblackwall on 27 Oct 2009, 15:32

Wheeling Turn Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:19 am Post subject:

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and hey malcolm there also is a set for garden wargaming : it is called the great killer tomatoes from outa space and they have a supplement for the war of the smurf rebellion which can be done in 15mm Cherry tomatoes.
A tercio in cherry tomatoes (1/72) wil only have two kilos!!!!

Ohh and it is written in Nepali....





Tjeromeke - see what i mean? :winky:

@ Alanus, Fenton: Thanks for the hints. I'll have a look at them :)

Thx,

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Posted by musketier on 23 Dec 2009, 06:48

You might take a look at "For God, King and Country" put out by the Canadian Wargamers Group its ECW but it has scenarios for TYW. I like it.
easy to learn, based my ECW armies on it. regimental level play.
( has already translated the killer tomatoes from outer space from the original Tibetan to Nepalese) :lol:
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Posted by luchs on 23 Dec 2009, 19:37

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Posted by Alanus on 23 Dec 2009, 22:15

Also check out "Lion of the North" available here:

http://www.freewargamesrules.co.uk/inde ... enaissance

I haven't played it, but it looks interesting.
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Posted by Martin on 23 Dec 2009, 22:18

I heard about black powder rules.Something for this period?
http://www.warlordgames.co.uk/?p=136
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Posted by davbenbak on 22 Jun 2011, 16:33

I discovered several boxes of Revell TYW figures in the garage and painted them up while recovering from surgury. "Father Tilly" that is free works fairly well as there is no set figures per base only set base sizes. The new version for sale has figure removal for casulties so is more specific. "Barded Fury" is also free with set base sizes but I did not feel it flow as well. Another alternative is "Carnage and Glory II" a computer aided rule set that I am currently testing for TYW. It keeps track of casulties so there's not as much emphasis on figure scale as there is base size.
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