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A question for the german speaker fellows..

Posted by Carlos on 29 Dec 2017, 22:00

How could be called this vehicles?
Krupp sehr protze 46 could be?

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Sataff version

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Utility version

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Posted by Erich von Manstein on 29 Dec 2017, 22:20

The presented kits hold no resemblance with real historical vehicles as far as I can say.

Maybe some very simplified versions of Kfz.69 ("Krupp Protze") or Kfz. 1, leichter geländegängiger Einheits-PKW ("Stoewer")?
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Posted by Wiking on 29 Dec 2017, 22:45

Luckily Mr. Matchbox never see what you do with his kit!
But nice idea!

The original L2H 43 (six wheeled version) was inofficial named Krupp-Protze.
L = Lastwagen (lorry)
2 = Nutzlast in Tonnen (playload in: t)
H = Hochrahmen (High frame)
4 = Zylinderzahl (Number of cylinders)
3 = Dreiachser (Number of axles)

Your Utility version is then.
L ( The load is up to you) H 42
So maybe:
L 1 H42

Your Staff version is then:
K for (Kommandowagen) Staff car.
Not playlload in: t. Instead number of seats.
So maybe:
K 4 H 42
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Posted by Wiking on 29 Dec 2017, 23:01

Maker: First to fight. 1/72
Polish version of Krupp-Protze.
Mabe the poles bought some chassis. And make there own body on top.
Or it is a Hungarian made version.

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Posted by Carlos on 29 Dec 2017, 23:29

Well I made the conversion to the six wheels staff car in scratch some years ago (the Hungarian) and the Kfz 19 too, in both cases I worked with a ICM kit .
It happens that about 20 years ago I bought some kits from the Krupp protze of matchbox, but then the ICM kits appeared and then the Dragon kit, (I have at least three of each). And those matchbox kits were left there.
They are not such good kits to do something "serious".
So I decided to play a little with my imagination and do something with them, I put them the rear independent horizontal coil springs in the front to make a 4x4 vehicle.
Being a unrealistic vehicles I was thinking more in a "nikanme" than in a techincal name...you know, we call the old fiat 600 "little ball" (in spanish "bolita"), the citroen 3 cv was "the frog", the heinkel Trojan was "the rat"...you know...something like that but in german...cause ths project is a joke, this is just for fun :P
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Posted by Paul on 30 Dec 2017, 09:16

L 1 H42 Kröte :-)
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Posted by FredG on 30 Dec 2017, 09:56

die Streichholzschachte Kröte :eh: :P
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Posted by Paul on 30 Dec 2017, 10:56

FredG wrote:die Streichholzschachte Kröte :eh: :P

Streichholzschachtel...!!!

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Now write it out 100 times!!
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Posted by Erich von Manstein on 30 Dec 2017, 12:35

The Krupp "Herbie" or "DuDu" vehicle series maybe?

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dudu

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbie

And while considering this topic one should definitely listen to this golden classic:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uYXBZbFXg4U

:thumbup: :xd:
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Posted by FredG on 30 Dec 2017, 12:38

Oh darn!

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Posted by Wiking on 31 Dec 2017, 05:11

Carlos wrote:
It happens that about 20 years ago I bought some kits from the Krupp protze of matchbox, but then the ICM kits appeared and then the Dragon kit, (I have at least three of each). And those matchbox kits were left there.
They are not such good kits to do something "serious".

Is`n it great that we get the option to choose between kits and in different versions in 1/72 now. 20 years back Matchbox or in a set of ARII. And both of them in 1/76 low level.

Carlos wrote:
Well I made the conversion to the six wheels staff car in scratch some years ago (the Hungarian) and the Kfz 19 too ...

Pictures ! Please.

Carrlos wrote:
Being a unrealistic vehicles I was thinking more in a "nikanme" than in a techincal name...

I read that the German tanker`s called the tank 1 (Sd Kfz 101):
Krupp`s Sportwagen. (Krupp`s roadster).
What about the nikanme : Essenschaukel (Foodshaker)
Krupp is located in the city Essen. The word Essen (essen) is also used in German language for "to eat". This is a support car who can bring the food cross country, off road finally - shaken.

This time not technical more logical.
:-D
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Posted by Wiking on 31 Dec 2017, 05:21

Macte! FredG.

Luckily FerG`s name is not
Karl-Theodor Maria Nikolaus Johann Jacob Philipp Franz Joseph Sylvester Buhl-Freiherr von und zu Guttenberg.
Because in this case we all know that he has done !
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Posted by Carlos on 31 Dec 2017, 17:16

Well, I was thinking in "Franz" (because Beckenbauer, my second foavourite football player :yeah: ), or "springer" ( thats what mrs Frieda, my grandmother's German friend used to call me when child , some years later when she knew what her granddaughter verena was doing with me after school she changed my nickname, but I do not remember that anymore :oops: )
Ok, the model will be "l1 h42, schaukel kröte" in two versions, the sportwagen and the utility, the Streichholzschachtel.
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Posted by FredG on 31 Dec 2017, 21:15

yay! :-D :yeah:
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Posted by Wiking on 01 Jan 2018, 06:13

Puhh ! Now we are all so glad to solve this problem of mankind in the last year.
Now you have a free mind for other unusual projects.

Good decision Carlos.
Because "springer" was already used.
(See my latest Dio "sod it". There is my first scratch build. A "Springer" :-D)

Question.
In my last post I mentioned zu Guttenberg.
The last one I expect to get a like is you and FedG.
Because these are well knowen German news a few years back.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view ... edIndex=10
Are you so informed about German news?
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Posted by Graeme on 01 Jan 2018, 15:28

FredG wrote:Oh darn!

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Which does raise the question. Are naughty schoolkids these days told to cut and paste something a hundred times as a punishment? :mrgreen:
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Posted by FredG on 01 Jan 2018, 16:10

Good grief, you don't really think it's cut/paste 100 times?

Much, much less. :P :mrgreen:
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Posted by Carlos on 01 Jan 2018, 16:28

Well the schaukel Krote will be in the list of the never built cars that could chenge the history forever.

Question.
In my last post I mentioned zu Guttenberg.
The last one I expect to get a like is you and FedG.
Because these are well knowen German news a few years back.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?view ... edIndex=10
Are you so informed about German news?[/quote]

SNIP!

Graeme, if you still copy /paste, I'll call my former 5-grade teacher so she can hit with a stick on the back of hand.
And then when you go back to your house, with a note in your notebook saying "the student cheated at school today" your mother will finish the task giving you a good ears tug and sending you to the corner without television ... and if you're lucky, she will not tell your father, because if she does ... God will not want what can happen. But for sure you will have problems to sit down, and you can forget about a new kit to assemble and be able to play the neighborhood gang of boys for a week...
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