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is this Sparta??? figure making

Posted by Phersu on 13 May 2017, 14:25

The first figure I've made with my new mannequins! :-D

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Despite it's actually the second finished... after this King Porsenna started second but finished yesterday!

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And I'd rather say only basicly completed, because despite unfinished I'll cast it this way too, before to transform in some kind of Leonida look alike!
Because it's nice this way too and is a very nice unusual pose which would be a shame and a waste if not used for other figures! ;-)



FIrst step, putting the mannequin in the right pose, this to test the joints which should allow the right bends... in some cases it would be necessary to file or cut a bit of resin to reach tight bends and very acute angles. ;-)

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Then I blocked the legs joints with a drop of glue, and filled the gaps recreating knees and ankles with putty.

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Finally I "smoothed and amalgamate" the joints with the rest of the mannequin with a layer of thick paint.

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Then I added sandals and greaves.

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Then the skirt with pteryges up to the belt.

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You see that I placed the arms upward to have more free space for sculpting, and that one hand and the head got pulled off from the internal supports... this can be a problem but simply avoidable with a dot of superglue.
By the other side this feature can be very helful to swap with other heads and hands, or even part or the whole arms and legs eventually! :winky:

Then I went ahead with the upper figure sculpting, placing the arms in the right position and blocking and sculpting the joints just like the legs.

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And finally the hands and head which are replaced with different ones and partly resculpted.

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I will cast this figure to use it as it is, and transform it in different ways... starting from the cloack and a suitable beard and haircut for a Leonida! ;-)
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Posted by Ben90 on 13 May 2017, 15:31

These mannequins seem to work quite well!
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Posted by sberry on 13 May 2017, 18:44

Ben90 wrote:These mannequins seem to work quite well!

Yes, and it is very interesting to watch the modeling process step by step.
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Posted by Phersu on 13 May 2017, 20:02

Than you my friends! ;-)

sberry wrote:Yes, and it is very interesting to watch the modeling process step by step.


Indeed they do, especially for strange unusual poses which are not so simple to achieve, while keeping the right proportions... like this case.
I guess these mannequins will work very well also for most close combat couples, and sure even better for multiple figures stick together, like a wounded carried from a rescuer for example! :thumbup:
While for more usual and simple poses I think other base bodies or simple existing figures are probably more suitable and quicker... and cheaper too! :winky:
Of course there are pros and cons, first the difficult of casting such mannequins... :sweatdrop: but the features I expected are all working fine, sure the unwanted bending or or accidental breaking of joints are not a big problem anymore, as it was with other metal skeletons I tried before!
And perhaps with some practice and experiments I will get to improve the whole thing even more. ;-)
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Posted by Mr. Cryns on 18 May 2017, 12:11

Very nice work Phersu, well done. :thumbup:

What putty did you use here to build up from the resin body?
I still have problems adding small details to a body or underground.
It simply does not stick well and falls of again, even if I use the most sticky proportions of green stuff.
Looking at your tiny straps around the legs, it all looks so simple :drool:
Is that your long experience or a combination with the right putty?
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Posted by Beano Boy on 18 May 2017, 14:29

I love all the work.It reminds me fondly of the Puppet shows from my childhood days. Well done. BB
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Posted by Phersu on 18 May 2017, 20:50

Thank you again my friends! :-D

Mr. Cryns wrote:Very nice work Phersu, well done. :thumbup:

What putty did you use here to build up from the resin body?
I still have problems adding small details to a body or underground.
It simply does not stick well and falls of again, even if I use the most sticky proportions of green stuff.
Looking at your tiny straps around the legs, it all looks so simple :drool:
Is that your long experience or a combination with the right putty?


I use the brown Tamiya quick epoxy putty, which I think is stickier than Green Stuff, at least during the first 5-10 minutes...
But sometimes I have the same problem on very smooth surfaces... and I suspect especially also on the first castings, when some traces of the relasing wax may transfer to the figure surface, and may happens untill the mold cavity is completely clear.

In most cases is enough to clean well the surface, otherwise usually i put a tiny drop of superglue to fix the putty in one point before to sculpt it... eventually adding other grip points, especially to add long thin bits.
Otherwise in some cases I even scrap the surface, or make it rougher with a cutter or a file to add a superficial grip like on the plastc figures.

For various straps, and especially for the sandals strings, in this case perhaps was more practical a very fine thread and some glue, but this time I made them with putty, I act a bit practiced with putty and they came out still good enough!

You are right! :thumbup:
The right combination of putty and-or time (hardening ;-) ) can make things much easier or nearly impossible... I still used Tamiya, but for such particular task like long thin putty threads I think the Green Stuff works better, however I suppose much depends also from the hand of the sculptor. ;-)
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