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Your way to ink/shadow/contrast?

Posted by Xantippos on 26 Aug 2022, 14:47

I am curious to see how other modellers confront this spiny subject.

Before, I didn't bother with any shadowing or highlight, and later I discovered that applying artist's black ink, and then washing it off, achieved a very good result, highlighting all the creases and detail everywhere, very quickly and effortlessly. Maybe not a perfect result, but a very good one and good for wargaming.

Question is that the pot itself, being 50 years old has sort of dried up, and now doesn't work not even half as well as it did before.

I have tried Games Workshop Nuln Oil, Vallejo GameColor black ink, Vallejo Wash, and both don't convince me, when you apply looks good, but when it dries it sort of vanishes away, leaving mostly all the figurine darkened, and not much detail highlighted.

I more or less have avoided inks, painting the whole mini black and then applying the next color on top. But this usually gives a very dark appearance, and sort of blurs the general impression. And doesn't look good on classical subjects, in my opinion generally.

I know that for best results, in theory one should be applying lots of different colour layers and highlights, but this method gave me quick and very good details.

Now I am about to buy another pot of artists ink, but it also has the disadvantage that it wears off with water, at least until it has absolutely dried out, which can be a couple of years, but would love to read some of the other techniques / advice used by the great painters of this forum ;) .
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Posted by blacksmith on 26 Aug 2022, 18:00

If you are UK based you can get Mixwax stain polyshades which works as the Army Painting but cheaper and better.
There is also another that works very well which is Clear or Future polish from Johnson and Johnson, to mix it with a bit of ink.
Those two work wonderfully well but I can't get them where I live. What I use is Betumen of Judea water based, for arts and school. It's very easy to work with but the mini gets a bit darker and then it need lights after the wash. It is what I'm using in the last three or four years.
Then there are a lot of home made washes with very similar recipes that you can watch searching on Youtube.
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Posted by Xantippos on 30 Aug 2022, 07:50

THanks for the reply ;) . I had a pot of Betún de Judea for ages, but it dried up. I might try to get some locally. Does it dry ok? I remember it was a bit on the tacky side.

Interesting idea using a ironmongery wood stain. I would have to find a dark one and water based. Might give it a try.
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Posted by blacksmith on 30 Aug 2022, 11:03

Xantippos wrote:THanks for the reply ;) . I had a pot of Betún de Judea for ages, but it dried up. I might try to get some locally. Does it dry ok? I remember it was a bit on the tacky side.

Interesting idea using a ironmongery wood stain. I would have to find a dark one and water based. Might give it a try.

My pleasure :)
Minwax does wonders but I cannot recall now the name of the specific hue everybody is using (I think it was Walnut but not sure), but it has to be oil based and with polyshades.

The betumen I'm using is acrylic and doesn't dry or get tacky, but oil based always get smoother result. The one water based needs lights after it dries as the figure gets a bit muddier but it isi much easier to use. Here you can see all the Zombicide miniatures with just a wash of oil-based Betumen and with not lights after: http://javieratwar.blogspot.com/2016/02/zomibicide-black-plague.html

I've been tinkering with home made washes. Here's one with varnish and betumen (oil) that gets good results: http://javieratwar.blogspot.com/2009/07/dipping-caos-marauders.html

And here you have another with floor wax and ink: http://javieratwar.blogspot.com/2011/03/magic-wash.html


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Posted by PaulRPetri on 01 Sep 2022, 22:30

Here is the Minwax Polyshade I used back in the day. I gave up on it because of the mineral sprits clean up and the can drying out quickly. I must confess it did give better results than using Future floor wax mixed with inks.
https://www.amazon.com/Minwax-213604444 ... 2157&psc=1
Here is the Johnson Pledge revive it I use now mixed with inks. Dries gloss I use Dull Coat from Testors after that.
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/sc-joh ... 39999.html
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Posted by PaulRPetri on 01 Sep 2022, 22:32

Here is a picture of the floor wax.

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Posted by blacksmith on 03 Sep 2022, 11:51

Yes! Tudor is the colour everybody is using with Minwax.
In Spain there is no Pledge nor Klear but I 've just found out a Mercadona floor wax with varnish that I hope it'll work as Klear. Can't wait to try it :)
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Posted by Xantippos on 04 Sep 2022, 07:48

I will have to try the floor wax and inks ;) . Thanks for all the tips.
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