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oil paints and pigments

Posted by mickey mouse on 03 Aug 2012, 13:24

hi

during my hollydays i've bought some oil paints and pigments.(plus a few kits) :mrgreen: but wich way can i thin the oil paints and how can i fixate the pigments? can i use collor mix from forinstance revell or not. any help appreciated!
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Posted by Kekso on 03 Aug 2012, 13:33

For oil colors I use stuff called "white spirit". It is odourless and can be found in any art shop and
in most general paint stores as well (even cheaper).
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Posted by Marshall Nay on 04 Aug 2012, 08:44

Another name for the same product Kekso mentioned is "odorless mineral spirits". It's the least harmful solvent to breath.

For glossy affects you can thin oil paint with oil paint "mediums". They are drying oils- linseed oil is the most common- that thin the paint, while giving it a tougher, glossier film. Oil paint dries very slowly, so some mediums are available that speed up the drying time. There are dozens of varieties being manufactured, but I'm not sure which are distributed in the Netherlands. So the staff at an art supply store in your area can probably help choose what's best for you.
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Posted by Von Roon on 04 Aug 2012, 22:58

When I used them, I found turpentine to be the most effective way to get a "paint" consistency from oils. (I can never figure out cross-Atlantic translations, so that may be white spirit, or it may not be). Artists use impasto effects where the brushstrokes remain visible and aren't worried about smooth flat finishes that we need for miniatures. So they don't mind the paint being more like toothpaste than "paint." But oils hold the shape of brushstrokes pretty well, so you'll need to thin them just to the point where they cover, but don't have enough strength to hold ridges or bumps. There are "drying" agents you can add to speed up the drying time, but generally oils will never approach the speed of drying acrylic (water-based) paint. I found that greens, in particular, take forever to dry -- one time I waited two weeks for a very dark green to dry. On the other hand, oils have a long working time so you can blend and use effects you can't with acrylics.

If you're painting metal figures, you can use a low-heat source to help the drying time. Some use a crock pot, I used a hair dryer set on low, and stuck it in a vise where I would blow it on the figure for 30 minutes at a time. Using a low-heat source like that also helps flatten the paint finish, but you'll probably find yourself using matt varnish (Pebeo makes a great matte varnish). BTW, I learned that oil paints don't actually "dry." Instead, the oil in the paint reacts with the oxygen in the atmosphere to crystallize and harden, fixing the color onto the surface. If I recall right, the correct term is oxidize, which sort of means that oil paints don't "dry," they "rust." :shock:

Good luck with the oil painting!
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Posted by poky on 05 Aug 2012, 13:52

I use Talens white spirit for thinning and a fast drying medium , got them at a art store in Zwolle later I found out that even the V&D has them
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Posted by mickey mouse on 06 Aug 2012, 19:08

thanks everyone for your comments/advice :-D :-D :thumbup:

@poky yes i know that V&D has it in Deventer. though, Zwolle has a taller V&D.
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